Oct 18, 2012 - Dismembered - 1988 Demo. Massive Killing Capacity - 1995. Tocan un death de la vieja escuela muy parecido a Dismember, por eso me.

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I was talking with a friend about the LISK last night and we ended up having a very lengthy discussion about the whole Shannan Gilbert event, as well as the dumping grounds and other small details. Here are some of our thoughts.

The Shannan Gilbert Event

We believe that this event is actually completely separate from the LISK. for a few reasons.

• We do not believe that this guy operates with others.

• The client, Joseph Brewer, actually told her to leave.

• In addition she was on the phone with 911 for 23 minutes from inside the house. No serial killer would allow her to have her phone, much less stay on the phone for 23 minutes.

• Brewer called the driver in to get Shannan out of his house.

• No serial killer would have allowed her to arrive with a driver. We refuse to believe that he would have overlooked this detail. He convinced other women to leave their cell phones behind and leave without telling anyone where they were going. This is to sloppy and does not fit his M.O.

• I think that if it was Hackett or Brewer that Melissa's family would know, because they heard LISK's voice when he called them.

Here's what we believe happened that night.

The Doctor Hackett, as we all know, claimed to run a halfway house for girls looking to get off the street. Whether he did or not is inconsequential. What we do believe is that he coordinated with escorts that he knew, either from hiring them before, or maybe they stayed in the house he claimed to run, neighbors. Hackett provided girls to nearby residents for parties or sex, effectively running a prostitution ring. This explains why he calls the family, and why he inserts himself into the investigation, and why Shannan's client won't talk to the cops. None of them want to go to jail for selling/hiring prostitutes so they shut up and deny everything.

So Brewer Hires Shannan, maybe through Hackett maybe not. Shannan might have been used by Hackett before. Shannan arrives and takes some drugs, which is not uncommon among prostitutes, but she takes to much, or has a random adverse reaction. She loses her mind and Brewer, unable to get what he wants, and also not wanting to draw attention to his house or himself calls in the driver to try and remove her and take her home. She's high so she bolts from the house, screaming and knocking on doors but still not behaving rationally. Brewer happens to live near the LISK dumping ground. She runs into the marsh and dies of drug overdose, exposure, or exhaustion. The police find the dumping grounds while looking for her.

Now that we have that out of the way..

Observations and thoughts we have about LISK.

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We believe he lives on L.I. Probably in Nassau County
He knows the beach area and he knows how to blend in. No only that but something nobody ever talks about is toll bridges. It would cost money to cross these bridges, not to mention would this guy honestly spend any additional money on these women he possibly hates so much? Additionally, EZ Passes are tracked via computer, and can be read in a lot more places than just bridges. I doubt that he would risk this because everything suggests he is decently tech savy. He uses burner phones, he masks himself on the internet, and he knows how long he can talk on the phone without being tracked. He doesn't live farther east in Suffolk County because there are tons of places to dump bodies out there that are just as hidden that he could use.

He probably works in Manhattan.
This would explain why he would be in Manhattan during those calls to the family and it would give him an excuse to be there. I doubt he would go into midtown just to make those calls when he could go to Brooklyn or Queens and hide himself in a crowd.

He comes across the Robert Moses Causeway when he dumps the bodies
If you look at this image it makes complete sense. Look at this map. It looks as if he drives across the bridge, makes a right, dumps the bodies, and gets out as fast as possible. If there are people in the area he drives farther down. This idea is solidified by the fact that if you just stay on the RMC you end up on Fire Island. I think he wants to leave Nassau County first and then dump the bodies, but he wants to get rid of the bodies ASAP.

He believes he can be tied to the dismembered bodies, or he was pressed for time
Why else would you dismember some bodies and just dump others whole? It tells us he either believes he can be connected to them and doesn't want them identified. This is backed up by the attempted tattoo removal. Tattoos are easy to identify. The only other explanation is that he was pressed for time on the others and could not dismember them.

He probably doesn't dismember them at his house
He would not do this where he lives. Serial vegas pro 15. He's to organized, he would want to stay as far from these women as possible evidence wise.

EDIT: After further discussions tonight we hit upon an interesting idea. What if he's a park worker that cleans up roadkill? This would allow him to have a work vehicle, be familiar with the area, explain any blood, and also give him a reason to be there without being suspicious. He might also have access to burlap sacks this way because saplings come with burlap sacks on the roots, and he might have been planting trees.

He would also live close to the park for his job.

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Longtime proponents of the grinding, powerful sound of no-frills Swedish death metal, Dismember was originally formed in Stockholm in 1988 as a power trio featuring vocalist/bassist Robert Sennebäck, guitarist David Blomqvist, and drummer Fred Estby. The group recorded a couple of demo tapes, but went on hiatus in late 1989 when Estby left to join Carnage; Blomqvist played with Entombed as a bassist, then joined Carnage as a second guitarist during the recording of their 1991 debut. However, Carnage imploded when guitarist Michael Amott departed to join Carcass, so Blomqvist, Estby, and Carnage vocalist Matti Karki reconvened Dismember and recorded a demo early in 1991. Sennebäck returned a short time later, and new bassist Richard Cabeza (formerly of Carbonized) was also added to the lineup. Dismember signed with Nuclear Blast and issued their debut album, Like an Ever Flowing Stream, in May 1991. The band toured heavily behind the record, also releasing a five-track EP titled Pieces in 1992; that same year, Dismember successfully defended themselves from an obscenity charge in the U.K. stemming from the song 'Skin Her Alive.' The experience informed the graphic Indecent and Obscene, which was released in 1993 and displayed a partial move toward melodicism, although Dismember's sound still echoed the unearthly heaviness of early Entombed. 1995's Massive Killing Capacity continued to refine the group's style, and helped make the band more visible in the death metal underground. 1997's Death Metal made clear that Dismember's basic Swedish death sound wasn't going to be altered all that much. Cabeza left the band before the recording of 2000's Hate Campaign, which featured Mercyful Fate bassist Sharlee D'Angelo. ~ Steve Huey

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